[nycphp-talk] PHPThumb -- how does it work??
Jonathan Wagener
jonathanw at amoeba.co.za
Fri Jan 4 06:18:44 EST 2008
Hi, I would like to know how I can make phpthumb work, I don't really
understand how it works. How do I make it create thumbnails?
Kind regards,
Jonathan Wagener
Web Developer / Architect
Amoeba Business Solutions
Cell: +27 72 928 0513
Office: +27 21 785 1424
Web: www.amoeba.co.za
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Why do "cool kids" choose PHP to build websites instead
of Java (Elliotte Rusty Harold)
2. Re: Why do "cool kids" choose PHP to build websites instead
of Java (Michael Southwell)
3. Re: Time Card / Scheduling Open Source Package (Keith Casey)
4. Re: Why do "cool kids" choose PHP to build websites instead
of Java (Anirudh Zala)
5. Re: Why do "cool kids" choose PHP to build websites instead
of Java (Gary Mort)
6. RE: Why do "cool kids" choose PHP to build websites
instead
of Java (Anthony Wlodarski)
7. Re: Why do "cool kids" choose PHP to build websites instead
of Java (Jake McGraw)
8. Re: Why do "cool kids" choose PHP to build websites
instead
of Java (Tim Gales)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2008 18:09:26 -0500
From: Elliotte Rusty Harold <elharo at metalab.unc.edu>
Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] Why do "cool kids" choose PHP to build
websites instead of Java
To: NYPHP Talk <talk at lists.nyphp.org>
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Jake McGraw wrote:
> Tim:
>
> You're not to fault, and the point about Java collections Vs array()
> is pretty good, unfortunately, I never made it that far because I was
> completely turned off by the "article", the exact text Tim was
> referring
> to:
>
> James Anderson wrote: The really simple answer is that after the
> release of php 5, php became the better language.
Oh really? From http://zestyping.livejournal.com/124503.html
% cat equality.php
<?php
$a = 0;
$b = "eggs";
$c = "spam";
print ($a == $b) ? "a == b\n" : "a != b\n"; print ($b == $c) ? "b ==
c\n" : "b != c\n"; print ($a == $c) ? "a == c\n" : "a != c\n"; print ($a
== $d) ? "a == d\n" : "a != d\n"; print ($b == $d) ? "b == d\n" : "b !=
d\n"; print ($c == $d) ? "c == d\n" : "c != d\n";
?>
% php equality.php
a == b
b != c
a == c
a == d
b != d
c != d
(Of course, starting in version 5, Java began to mess up simple
Aristotelian logic too, but not quite this badly.)
--
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2008 19:22:30 -0500
From: Michael Southwell <michael.southwell at nyphp.com>
Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] Why do "cool kids" choose PHP to build
websites instead of Java
To: NYPHP Talk <talk at lists.nyphp.org>
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Elliotte Rusty Harold wrote:
> Jake McGraw wrote:
>> Tim:
>>
>> You're not to fault, and the point about Java collections Vs array()
>> is pretty good, unfortunately, I never made it that far because I was
>> completely turned off by the "article", the exact text Tim was
>> referring to:
>>
>> James Anderson wrote: The really simple answer is that after the
>> release of php 5, php became the better language.
>
> Oh really? From http://zestyping.livejournal.com/124503.html
>
>
> % cat equality.php
> <?php
>
> $a = 0;
> $b = "eggs";
> $c = "spam";
>
> print ($a == $b) ? "a == b\n" : "a != b\n";
> print ($b == $c) ? "b == c\n" : "b != c\n";
> print ($a == $c) ? "a == c\n" : "a != c\n";
> print ($a == $d) ? "a == d\n" : "a != d\n";
> print ($b == $d) ? "b == d\n" : "b != d\n";
> print ($c == $d) ? "c == d\n" : "c != d\n";
>
> ?>
>
> % php equality.php
> a == b
> b != c
> a == c
> a == d
> b != d
> c != d
>
> (Of course, starting in version 5, Java began to mess up simple
> Aristotelian logic too, but not quite this badly.)
ah, no, these answers are exactly right, given that $a is an integer, $b
and $c are strings, and $d is unset. $b and $c when converted to
integers for the purpose of comparison in #1 and #3 turn into 0 (zero)
so the comparisons are true. #2 compares two different strings and so is
false. #4 compares 0 to the integer of unset and so is true. #5 and #6
compare strings to the string of unset and so are false.
>
>
--
=================
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 22:34:42 -0500
From: "Keith Casey" <mailinglists at caseysoftware.com>
Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] Time Card / Scheduling Open Source Package
To: "NYPHP Talk" <talk at lists.nyphp.org>
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On Jan 2, 2008 5:15 PM, Gary Mort <bz-gmort at beezifies.com> wrote:
> Just about any project management software, such as BaseCamp,
> ActiveCollab, or Project Pier has time tracking abilities.
A bit biased on this one... former dotProject contributor and one of
the founders of the new fork: web2project ( http://web2project.net/ ).
Simply tracking time is easy. You can actually do that with Notepad
using the LOG feature. It's what you do with it that's important.
Scheduling and resource planning is one good step. Comparing against
estimates is even better. Tracking estimates over time and learning
people's biases for better estimating is the best of all. ;)
dotProject and web2project do the first couple points. I'm working on
a useful Estimation module now to automate what I've been doing by
hand.
kc
--
D. Keith Casey Jr.
CEO, CaseySoftware, LLC
http://CaseySoftware.com
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 09:12:11 +0530
From: Anirudh Zala <arzala at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] Why do "cool kids" choose PHP to build
websites instead of Java
To: NYPHP Talk <talk at lists.nyphp.org>
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On Thursday 03 Jan 2008 04:39:26 Elliotte Rusty Harold wrote:
> Jake McGraw wrote:
> > Tim:
> >
> > You're not to fault, and the point about Java collections Vs array()
is
> > pretty good, unfortunately, I never made it that far because I was
> > completely turned off by the "article", the exact text Tim was
referring
> > to:
> >
> > James Anderson wrote: The really simple answer is that after the
release
> > of php 5, php became the better language.
>
> Oh really? From http://zestyping.livejournal.com/124503.html
>
>
> % cat equality.php
> <?php
>
> $a = 0;
> $b = "eggs";
> $c = "spam";
>
> print ($a == $b) ? "a == b\n" : "a != b\n";
> print ($b == $c) ? "b == c\n" : "b != c\n";
> print ($a == $c) ? "a == c\n" : "a != c\n";
> print ($a == $d) ? "a == d\n" : "a != d\n";
> print ($b == $d) ? "b == d\n" : "b != d\n";
> print ($c == $d) ? "c == d\n" : "c != d\n";
>
> ?>
>
> % php equality.php
> a == b
> b != c
> a == c
> a == d
> b != d
> c != d
>
> (Of course, starting in version 5, Java began to mess up simple
> Aristotelian logic too, but not quite this badly.)
Seriously PHP is not for cool kids. You need to grow a bit to learn and
understand it properly. I think PHP has chosen *different* rules to
evaluate
expressions and since those rules are bit different than other regular
programming/scripting languages it is obvious that we can see this kind
of
opposition.
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2008 05:14:10 -0500
From: Gary Mort <bz-gmort at beezifies.com>
Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] Why do "cool kids" choose PHP to build
websites instead of Java
To: NYPHP Talk <talk at lists.nyphp.org>
Message-ID: <477CB572.5040200 at beezifies.com>
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Elliotte Rusty Harold wrote:
> % cat equality.php
> <?php
>
> $a = 0;
> $b = "eggs";
> $c = "spam";
>
> print ($a == $b) ? "a == b\n" : "a != b\n";
> print ($b == $c) ? "b == c\n" : "b != c\n";
> print ($a == $c) ? "a == c\n" : "a != c\n";
> print ($a == $d) ? "a == d\n" : "a != d\n";
> print ($b == $d) ? "b == d\n" : "b != d\n";
> print ($c == $d) ? "c == d\n" : "c != d\n";
> ?>
>
I don't see this as a problem, basically the issue being raised is:
PHP does not have strong typing, this 0, NULL, and false are all
equivalent(add a $d=false; to the definitions and everything still comes
out with the same result).
However, knowing that these 3 values are considered the same, you can
replace 2 equal signs with 3, ===, and get the output your expecting.
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 09:14:21 -0500
From: "Anthony Wlodarski" <aw at sap8.com>
Subject: RE: [nycphp-talk] Why do "cool kids" choose PHP to build
websites instead of Java
To: "'NYPHP Talk'" <talk at lists.nyphp.org>
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Zesty Ping never learned === apparently. This one's for you Zesty:
http://www.php.net/manual/en/language.operators.comparison.php
"===" introduced type facing in php4 so it is a moot point or just poor
reading skills on some developers parts if they missed this essential
comparison operator...
Anthony Wlodarski
646-285-0500 x230
aw at sap8.com
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On Behalf Of Gary Mort
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 5:14 AM
To: NYPHP Talk
Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] Why do "cool kids" choose PHP to build
websites instead of Java
Elliotte Rusty Harold wrote:
> % cat equality.php
> <?php
>
> $a = 0;
> $b = "eggs";
> $c = "spam";
>
> print ($a == $b) ? "a == b\n" : "a != b\n";
> print ($b == $c) ? "b == c\n" : "b != c\n";
> print ($a == $c) ? "a == c\n" : "a != c\n";
> print ($a == $d) ? "a == d\n" : "a != d\n";
> print ($b == $d) ? "b == d\n" : "b != d\n";
> print ($c == $d) ? "c == d\n" : "c != d\n";
> ?>
>
I don't see this as a problem, basically the issue being raised is:
PHP does not have strong typing, this 0, NULL, and false are all
equivalent(add a $d=false; to the definitions and everything still comes
out with the same result).
However, knowing that these 3 values are considered the same, you can
replace 2 equal signs with 3, ===, and get the output your expecting.
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 09:29:47 -0500
From: "Jake McGraw" <jmcgraw1 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] Why do "cool kids" choose PHP to build
websites instead of Java
To: "NYPHP Talk" <talk at lists.nyphp.org>
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I believe it was my Uncle Ben who once said "With great power comes
great
responsibility." PHP does things in a manner different than C or Java or
Python or etc etc etc (that is why it is called PHP). There are features
that some programmers believe are shortcomings, there are shortcomings
that
some programmers believe are features. Know the language and its quirks
and
you'll never get bitten, program with some "responsibility".
- jake
On Jan 3, 2008 9:14 AM, Anthony Wlodarski <aw at sap8.com> wrote:
> Zesty Ping never learned === apparently. This one's for you Zesty:
>
> http://www.php.net/manual/en/language.operators.comparison.php
>
> "===" introduced type facing in php4 so it is a moot point or just
poor
> reading skills on some developers parts if they missed this essential
> comparison operator...
>
> Anthony Wlodarski
> 646-285-0500 x230
> aw at sap8.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org
[mailto:talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org]
> On Behalf Of Gary Mort
> Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 5:14 AM
> To: NYPHP Talk
> Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] Why do "cool kids" choose PHP to build
websites
> instead of Java
>
> Elliotte Rusty Harold wrote:
> > % cat equality.php
> > <?php
> >
> > $a = 0;
> > $b = "eggs";
> > $c = "spam";
> >
> > print ($a == $b) ? "a == b\n" : "a != b\n";
> > print ($b == $c) ? "b == c\n" : "b != c\n";
> > print ($a == $c) ? "a == c\n" : "a != c\n";
> > print ($a == $d) ? "a == d\n" : "a != d\n";
> > print ($b == $d) ? "b == d\n" : "b != d\n";
> > print ($c == $d) ? "c == d\n" : "c != d\n";
> > ?>
> >
> I don't see this as a problem, basically the issue being raised is:
> PHP does not have strong typing, this 0, NULL, and false are all
> equivalent(add a $d=false; to the definitions and everything still
comes
> out with the same result).
>
> However, knowing that these 3 values are considered the same, you can
> replace 2 equal signs with 3, ===, and get the output your expecting.
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2008 10:43:33 -0500
From: Tim Gales <tgales at tgaconnect.com>
Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] Why do "cool kids" choose PHP to build
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Anthony Wlodarski wrote:
> This article was funny and yet sad...
>
Yes me too -- but for different reasons.
I thought it was extremely immature to say
"PHP is a better language".
It is like trying to argue that a Phillips
head screwdriver is a better screwdriver
(as was mentioned) without taking in to
account what type of screws are being used.
I thought if I put that phrase about being
a better language in the post everyone would
know there might be a good portion of ill-informed
(and childish) opinions in the article.
Judging from some responses, that was more
than a slight miscalculation on my part --
and none too smart.
So let me say, in the words of the inimitable 'agent 86',
"Sorry about that, Chief"
--
T. Gales & Associates
'Helping People Connect with Technology'
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